On the show today we talk… Ryan Chaw is Creating a Ton of Cashflow with Student Housing!
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Show notes for Ryan Chaw is Creating a Ton of Cashflow with Student Housing!
The Vantastic Life is…
– is in Steamboat Springs CO!
Ryan Chaw’s career
Ryan go started as a pharmacist when he realized the fragility of his job, and decided to get into real estate investing.
First house
100 year old house that ended up having $30k in unexpected repairs. Then came up with an idea to borrow money from dad and give him the rent of one of the rooms for the rest of his life.
Boarding house model
This wasn’t the intention from the start, but it showed itself as being lucrative. And has learned a lot about what students need and want.
He realized that the more bedrooms he could create, the more money he would bring in.
Copying what you’ve done
Ryan did something super smart in copying what has worked for him over and over.
Refinancing
One was refinanced at a new lower rate. He also used a HELOC where he took out $100k to purchase 4th and 5th property without any more cash from pocket.
What have you learned
Don’t buy 100 year old houses
Invest in a 5-7 min driving or walking distance from campuses
Really large square footage houses
Over 1500 sq/ft you can usually add more bedrooms and increase cashflow
Only charged 1/2 of what on-campus is charging
3 people to 1 bathroom
What condition are the houses
Ryan buys houses that are in pretty good shape and don’t need much rehab/renovation.
Worst deal
$330k with $2500 a month in rental income.
Best deal
$511K with $3650 a month in rental income. And he lives in it.
Expenses
Are usually around $3k per year, per house.
Repairs and management
To avoid repairs Ryan does a lot of inspections, and tests everything in the house to keep repairs to a minimum.
Off market properties
He finds deals off market from his realtors. The realtor gets buyers and sellers commissions on there.
Competition to buy houses
Being clear on what he is looking for helps to find him deals that make sense and allow him to ask for repairs.
Because Ryan has a great W2 he can qualify for a large mortgage, and it’s clear that he can close without issues.
Calculating returns
8-9% cap rate and 12% cash on cash return. Highest house is around 20% cash on cash, and lowest 12%. The cash on cash return skyrockets when he can add bedrooms.
Rules or laws against rent by the room
You should contact the city to make sure what you’re doing is legal. There can be different restrictions.
What are the terms of your leases
The students are already paying so much less than on-campus housing that they are willing to lease for 12 months. He will also try to help students find sub-renters.
At this point I have enough renters that it’s easy to get more renters.
Evictions
He hasn’t had to evict anyone yet. The parents what to keep their students in school.
Covid did make things interesting. He offered $100 discount for the people that wanted to leave early.
Join us on our meetup on Thursday at 11:30am PT
https://meetup.com/seattleinvestorsclub
Come hangout with us.
Prime Method
For finding tenants
P – placement of ads – where target market hangs out.
R – reviewing social media – look for smoking drugs, raves..
I – identifying the type of tenant – anger, etc.
M – measuring responsiveness – this will pay off down the road
E – ensuring proof of income – usually parents paying rent, so getting back statements from parents.
Future plans
When you have a model that works… copy that model to scale it. Keep your eye on the ball.
How are you collecting rent
Ryan uses Zelle because it’s so easy. I also teach the Tenant Cloud software.
Contact Ryan
Newsletter with strategy – www.newbierealestateinvesting.com/guide
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